honda0105

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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2009 6:03:02 AM
lying with statistics.. a fun thing to do :)
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2009 10:13:30 PM
zippy: you're right.. one says this, another says something else.
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zippy452

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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2009 8:00:35 AM
Blah Blah Blah...other reports I have read say consumption has contracted.
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kelsielee

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2009 7:45:59 AM
So many statistics - some of which seem to contradict each other - that they make the article very confusing and of very little value.
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NHLiveFree

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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2009 2:49:39 AM
It must be a modern-day miracle to increase world gasoline consumption without also increasing world oil consumption. Perhaps someone has created synthetic gasoline w/o letting us all know? Twisted factoids!
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twomikea

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2009 2:47:45 AM
slowdown in use compared to avg. is good
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72_Monte

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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2009 1:14:28 AM
Coming from a supplier-nation's "news", I don't buy it.
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NedW

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 11:05:01 PM
We need to bring industry back here, and, get back to a free enterprise economy. Lower taxes and regulation, and, raise tariffs, too. Otherwise, this recession will only get worse.
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bosrs

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:59:14 PM
gas as gasoline? or nature gas?
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bguz

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:52:39 PM
It'll never go down
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Muke

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:51:33 PM
If they keep oil prices higher then people will find alternate energy source. Greedy oil producers will eventually will be defeated by consumers.
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tidbitKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:50:34 PM
Conserve, conserve, conserve.
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NavyStore

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:48:25 PM
Agreed. We need to get off oil and that will fix soooo many problems.
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mike911

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:47:00 PM
Who do you believe?
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abcdMA

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:40:43 PM
keep demand down
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must87searcher

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:40:27 PM
It is a time of change, and these changes really needed and are going to to occure today!
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Eichhornchen

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:39:33 PM
The other article says that China is poised to lead the US in clean energy and then you compare those two growth numbers. Funny
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snewwee

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:39:02 PM
Not in my back yard.
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moody4u

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:36:27 PM
yeah
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PissedCanuck

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:35:27 PM
So what happened to all that oil that were hidden in those unused oil tankers? The Speculators drank it all?
[Edited by: PissedCanuck at 7/5/2009 10:35:50 PM EST]
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flyfast

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:33:47 PM
it's down when the price of oil go's down then they say usage gos up to get price back up
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jeromehasbargen

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:32:46 PM
Someone is still getting rich no mater what the price is and how much or little gas we use.
[Edited by: jeromehasbargen at 7/5/2009 10:33:50 PM EST]
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coyoteAB

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:28:25 PM
Keep stealing from us, we are not all on our knees yet.
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Jojavo

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:26:08 PM
Supply outweighs demand but gas prices still high..??? Why?
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SWAPCAR1

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:24:31 PM
Anything at all to raise crude oil prices.
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pgerassi

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:22:12 PM
Yes those statistics are look to be an overly rosy view. Its curious how demand at retail fell in the US in units, but was not reflected in those statistics.
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Dancin

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:14:58 PM
Suspect statistics.
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carlsonguitars

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:14:29 PM
Because of China and India, we are seeing INCREASED gas consumption on a WORLDWIDE basis, except in the USA we have lowered our gas use- which is odd being that our population has grown in the past few years!!!
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souther_pride

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:13:21 PM
sounds like just another excuse to rise prices
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TheSnowstorm

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:11:06 PM
More meaningless statistics. They can take any data and make it prove whatever they want, using the power of stats.
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TXGasPriceSpy

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:10:49 PM
I still remember those gas prices in 2008. OPEC, speculators and big oil companies made BIG money last year didn't they? Just ask Exxon and others.
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smwhite

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:07:39 PM
I agree, MTPokts.
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Voltus

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:06:32 PM
funny, the rest of the world always point the finger at USA, but China and India are by far the worst polluters in the world. We just use it more efficiently.
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MTPokts

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:03:49 PM
Have these people been on holiday for the past 7 months? Why are they now reporting 2008 useage? I suspect they're trying to drive up crude prices with this kind of "reporting".
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trainjunkie47

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:01:05 PM
This is one huge reason why the Kyoto Protocol and the Waxman-Markey (Clean Air and Energy Securities Act) are total jokes. We have alot of democrats and a handful of republicans who want to hamstring our economy for a generation when it will do nothing to curb pollution levels.
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TFowler513

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:00:53 PM
Just another reason to quickly move to free alternative energy resources such as solar, wind and hydro!!!
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billy44bo

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:56:58 PM
with almost 10% of the people with out jobs consumption will be way down for some time. Hope those that made gas go up 60% this last year go broke.
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redcurls1

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:47:17 PM
My consumption is way down.
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revON

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:45:37 PM
I consumption is down.I friend consumption down.
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DEG

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:43:19 PM
In 2009 usage will most likely moderate.
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9C1

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:42:41 PM
Let's see: USA useage grew 0.6%, but China gres 15.8%. There is a message there.
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micpie

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:41:57 PM
It's summertime. Fuel usage always goes up.
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Buck_on_Bass

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:41:18 PM
As the recession ends, consumption will rise. The questions is whether the oil producers will meed the demand.
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cathevan

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Manitoba
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:34:20 PM
sure people are still using lots of gas - i've seen no slow down
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able2ru

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:33:55 PM
Very confusing article. They say consumption in 2008 rose when we were being robbed blind by the oil industry?!? I think consumption declined. Maybe they are talking about Money. If so, the percentage increases are too low for the rise in price that occurred.
But we absolutely have to have an alternative fuel in place before China really starts using oil. A billion new drivers would run oil prices out of the solar system.
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FuelBarge

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:33:06 PM
I am curious if they are referring to Natural Gas or Gasoline. I would believe this applies to Natural Gas.
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DellMan

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:32:54 PM
They must be talking about Natural Gas since this is what Qatar produces. This is what turned them into a major country. Before the found these sources they were closer to a third world country. We already know gasoline consumption went down last year due to gas hitting $4. You are right it is a poorly written Obama press release... I mean article.
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sillywagon

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:26:22 PM
They are writing about gasoline and coal, but it is confusing and makes it seem they could be writing about natural gas. Badly written article... I mean press release.
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TomT2Lee

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:26:09 PM
And yet, people want to stick their heads in the sand and believe the lies that production will always exceed production.
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camel1

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:21:53 PM
Is this natural gas as opposed to gasoline?
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