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envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Jun 6, 2007 10:29:30 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse Changes, adjustments, looking for help, stations that need to be verified... Look here.

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bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jun 8, 2009 8:51:17 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse Thanks, Dick. I don't get up that way much now.
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jun 7, 2009 12:13:20 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse I forgot to mention that I did some work in the Reading, North Reading, Andover, Tewksbury, and Wilmington areas earlier this week. As usual, I added pictures, and corrected any miscellaneous data that was missing. Most of the entries by Bugc and JASilva were spot on, thanks for the detail attention guys. I had to rename and reopen one station in Wilmington, King Petroleum has a sign indicating it is Route 38 gas & service and is open. It was only selling diesel so I have modified the station accordingly. Bugc - You seem to travel that area some, can you confirm that is only sells diesel, and see if I have the correct new name? It looked like they might be really opening as something else but had not changed the signage to reflect it yet. With the next round of photo's I will look at changing the primary street name to include the route number in Parenthesis. After I do some, lets see if someone comes in and changes them or if I get complaints from GM.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jun 7, 2009 12:53:25 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse I have no idea how the alternate field is used, or if it is used. I suppose there is no harm to have the route number entered in both places.
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jun 6, 2009 9:17:08 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse E-dude, I feel, the more the merrier. If they just want to give you prices, thats OK, but more members should cover more area. Bugc - I have listed a few that way, and have not seen them changed (yet). I do think we could start putting them into the master list with the route number included instead of the alternate field. How many people know that Newbury St in Peabody is actually US-1 north & south. I think people should list the primary st as Newbury St (US-1) and either leave the alternate name field empty or list US-1 redundantly. MaryKopechne does a lot of editing. Perhaps he(she) can be enlisted to systemically make those changes. [Edited by: dickc49 at 6/6/2009 9:18:11 PM EST]
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Jun 6, 2009 8:28:11 AM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse dc49, I get a lot of prices from various people who aren't willing to join... like my girlriend... Makes me look like I do even more traveling than I already do, but so long as members know that, it's fine... In Maine, they're used to it, I think.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jun 6, 2009 8:01:11 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse I see a trend of Route numbers being removed from the street address and being put into the alternate name field. This is undesirable because the route numbers are hidden in the price lists. Showing the route numbers is useful for people not familiar with the street names. The practice is sanctioned by the admins. Just look at the Boston Price Posting Guidelines, locked at the top of the topic list. [Edited by: bugc at 6/6/2009 8:02:43 AM EST]
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 25, 2009 1:31:22 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse For what it is worth, I have some skiing friends who use this site all the time to find the least expensive gas near their house or on the trip north to western Maine. I cannot get them to join however.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 24, 2009 6:39:21 PM Ignore bugc Report Abuse I don't know how much this site really helps anyone, but it feels good to put serious effort into making it work better and to hope it is beneficial.... Good luck to all who are affected by the current conditions....
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 24, 2009 6:19:15 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse Compare with unemployment which pays about 2/3 of my former net. Don't get me wrong, I DO appreciate it. Add to that I have to pay $1427 for health insurance instead of the $200 I paid while employed, and it is a big hit. Don't know what type of hit you have taken, but the Pols are not hurting, just the rest of us! [Edited by: dickc49 at 5/24/2009 6:21:06 PM EST]
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: May 24, 2009 4:07:56 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse oh... I don't know how gainful it is, but I'm employed... I work for State Government... major cuts in wages and increases in premiums for insurance... I'm trying not to complain... guess everyone's taking cuts these days.
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 24, 2009 12:24:11 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse Thanks for the support Envtldude. I hope you are gainfully employed, and that it stays that way for as long as you desire!
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: May 24, 2009 11:03:00 AM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse It's a bumer that you're unemployed dc49. I wish you luck finding a job... not a good time to be out of a job, I'm sure. It's fortunate for Gas Buddy that you occupy your spare time by making our MSLs more accurate. I wish I could convince some of my other unemployed friends to have such a helpful pass-time.
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 22, 2009 11:55:16 AM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse Thanks Bugc. Being unemployed, and spending many frustrating hours trying to find suitable employment, I need something completely different to occupy my mind and break up the time. Taking a leisurely drive and using my DSLR to photograph stations fills a void of needing to do something half way useful. I do find it startling as to how much detail each photo reveals about a stations features. By blowing them up on my PC, I can scan for air hoses, phones, pay at pump, ATM's and the like. Features the mind does not notice unless you have a checklist to look for them.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 22, 2009 8:49:47 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse Good work, dickc!
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 21, 2009 8:41:31 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse I added pictures from Wakefield, Melrose, Stoneham, Woburn, Reading, and one from Lynnfield today. I found a station in Stoneham that was not in the list and added it, Interstate Fuels. I did the ususal correcting of features on all the stations.
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 14, 2009 8:41:54 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse I took pictures in Lynn and Saugus today. I have gotten all of the stations in both areas photographed now. I corrected miscellaneous data on a couple of stations. Things like missing zip codes, phone numbers, pump counts, Etc. Two had a appalling lack of capitalization, and there was a duplicate in Saugus. I forgot to post last week that I did the same in Swampscott.
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2009 7:54:33 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse I took pictures of all the Salem stations today. Convenient. I corrected miscellaneous data on a couple of stations. Things like missing zip codes, new phone numbers, pump counts, Etc. It was nice to get out in the truck as it has A/C, and my home ones are not in yet. Boy was it hot today!
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 24, 2009 8:36:41 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse dickc: "a good program to reduce the file size of a photo?" A simple way, if you use Windows Mail, Outlook Express, or other such mailer is to mail photo to yourself. You get the choice to reduce size, and you don't even have to send the mail....
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 23, 2009 1:53:31 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse Thanks Dick! That will come in handy at times. I completed pictures in the Danvers and Beverly area today. Had a doctor appointment, and all but one of the stations were within a mile of the doctors office. Convenient. I corrected miscellaneous data on a couple of stations. Things like missing zip codes, new phone numbers, pump counts, Etc.
Dickp274 Champion Author Virginia Posts:11,424 Points:2,073,875 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2009 10:26:12 PM Ignore Dickp274 Report Abuse DickC49 go here. [Edited by: Dickp274 at 3/22/2009 10:26:42 PM EST]
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2009 10:10:07 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse I use my old (2002)Olympus C4040 4 Mega pixel camera for this. It has quite a bit of lag time, but gives me photos in the 800 KB size range which are more than good enough for GB. I asked for a list of stations that did not have pictures, and one of the mods got a programmer to pull a list of Boston area stations without photos for me. I have it in an Excel spreadsheet so I can manipulate it and print sections to use in my picture forays. If you want a copy, buddy gram me with a email address. I have not done much in the last few days because of a pesky migraine. Does anyone know of a good program to reduce the file size of a photo? My other camera takes 12 Mega Pixel photos that end up in the 4-5 MB range. If I could reduce the file size, it is a much better camera. I know I can reset the camera to do it, but it would be nice sometimes to be able to retroactively downsize a photo. [Edited by: dickc49 at 3/22/2009 10:11:06 PM EST]
Dickp274 Champion Author Virginia Posts:11,424 Points:2,073,875 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2009 3:41:00 PM Ignore Dickp274 Report Abuse Just had to close a Sunoco in Cohasset, his 1.99 price was too steep and the station was gas only so it had nothing extra to offer. It was a station Sunoco owned and $3000+ a month rent. Hard way to make a living.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2009 12:20:31 PM Ignore bugc Report Abuse The moderators said no Google pics in this Topic.
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2009 8:31:05 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse dc49, I don't remember who said so, but apparently we're not supposed to use google's pics in gasbuddy. I use the pics for accuracy too, but have removed photos I had put into the MSL. As I understand it, the question was posed to the mods and they were concerned about infringements on copyrights or something. It might be worth posing the question to the mods again... [Edited by: envtldude at 3/20/2009 8:33:31 PM EST]
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2009 8:17:36 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse Interesting. I had never run into Google Streets photographed at night.
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2009 8:09:18 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse bugc - I upload them to the section provided on the MSL entry. I may not be the best photographer around, but I get much better ones than Google maps get. Some of Google's photo's are taken at night and are AWFUL. Google the NAPA auto parts store in Peabody on US-1, and then go to the street view, taken at night, and you cannot make out anything. It also gives me the chance to review each station, and make sure features, street names and brand are correct. I had to correct streets and brands in Revere, and add a missing station. All of Revere is complete with photos. One of the Primes (655 Revere Beach Pkwy) was taken on the fly, and is probably my worst shot. I am unemployed temporarily and a little stir crazy, so I am doing this to keep busy. [Edited by: dickc49 at 3/18/2009 8:10:55 PM EST]
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2009 7:32:52 PM Ignore bugc Report Abuse What do they do with the photos? Why bother? You can usually use Google Streets if you need to see what the staion looks like.
Dickp274 Champion Author Virginia Posts:11,424 Points:2,073,875 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 16, 2009 8:45:32 AM Ignore Dickp274 Report Abuse Right-O on that Dickc49, our Exxons all became Gulfs. I've updated all of my favorites. Seems the prices are finally starting down again, just in time for Duvall's hikes.
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2009 11:22:41 AM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse I have gotten re-interested in the MSL, and have been adding photo's to stations. I thought maybe by bringing this topic back up, and populating it I could get some others to pitch in. I am finding there are needed changes due to stations changing brand/ownership, as well as just plain simple errors like misspellings.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2009 10:30:14 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse Wow! This topic is wakened from the dead!
dickc49 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:24,690 Points:2,518,450 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 9:33:23 PM Ignore dickc49 Report Abuse I added a Patriot Depot/Prime Energy in Revere today on American Legion Hwy. I changed Pettrullo's Service to Mutual in Revere and it's secondary name to R & R Service. I got photo's of a bunch of Revere stations today, and updated the features on them. I also did some in Lynn, Lynnfield, and Saugus.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2008 11:47:53 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse It looks to me that JasioN is continuing to add the maximum points nearly every day.
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Jan 23, 2008 9:40:12 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse don't believe we've seen JasioN here.. sorry tbucks...
tbucks Champion Author Springfield Posts:20,566 Points:3,183,050 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jan 23, 2008 5:00:08 PM Ignore tbucks Report Abuse Hi Boston: Has anyone heard from JasioN lately? We used to be neck and neck in the ratings, but lately he's fallen back. . TBucks Springfield, MA SpringfieldGasPrices.com
jasilva Champion Author Boston Posts:1,306 Points:964,625 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2008 2:36:23 PM Ignore jasilva Report Abuse bugc: I can imagine there are many more 'corner cases' where Google (and the other map sites) does not get it right. However, it is still very useful to help placing things on a road, and the 'US Address Lookup' mapplet usually gets you the correct even/odd side addresses on a street so that when you look at the satellite or street view you'll know where to look for the station! I'm also not suggesting to only use Google Maps (or other map site) alone -- that is why I suggested also using the gas company's own station locator's in conjunction with Google Maps. My point is that this is another tool for allowing folks to do a BETTER job with street addresses and not take the 'lazy way out' ;-) of only posting cross streets which don't even help a lot of times around here ... It also helps with getting the station's phone number and sometimes the services offered there too. Again, nothing is a substitute for visiting the station yourself but even when you do, there are somethings (like exact street address) that you just can't get from the station so require some alternative way to verify. [Edited by: jasilva at 1/20/2008 2:37:30 PM EST]
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2008 1:57:12 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse Google Maps is the system GB uses here, HOWEVER, I would caution using google maps as the SOLE source of information. There was a member from Charleston (VA, I think) that decided he'd start editing and changing our MSL in accordance to what he found on google maps. Bottom line is, there is no substitute for local participation... it's better to cruize by the station, if at all possible.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2008 9:51:53 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse Another comment on mapping. Below I reported changing the address of the 128 service plaza from 690 Marrett Rd, Lexington, MA (its postal address) in the MSL. I looked up 690 Marrett Rd, Lexington, MA in maps.google.com and was surprised to see the marker placed in the correct location. Then I remembered that some time ago I reported the mapping error to Google and now they have fixed it. I then tried 690 Marrett Rd, Lexington, MA at maps.yahoo.com and see it at the wrong location. I expect mapquest etc. will have the same error.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2008 9:44:23 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse jasilva- I don't understand how "This also helps to verify the EXACT station address." As an example,consider the Sunoco station listed at 286 Lincoln St Lexington, MA. Going to that address and selecting a street view reveals a closed and boarded up station and the header cautions cautions "Address is approximate". Searching for "gas" under businesses shows Five Forks Shell Service Station at 286 Lincoln St. The boarded up building was the Shell station that has been closed for several years. It was recently reconstructed and reopened as a Sunoco station. I reposted this to the MSL, keeping the 286 Lincoln St address. Since the lot is at the corner of Marrett Rd, I envisioned that the new station could take a Marrett Rd. address instead of the Lincoln St one. After thinking more about this, I suppose the street address is assigned to the plot of land (assuming there is only one), and that the PO would not allow changing the address. To illistrate my question- go to Google maps and request 595 Marrett Rd Lexington, MA. You will see another view of the station but do not have an easy way to know which is the "official address".
jasilva Champion Author Boston Posts:1,306 Points:964,625 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2008 8:17:38 PM Ignore jasilva Report Abuse FYI: I never usually check in on this local forum but saw this ... I've started to use Google Map's 'Street View' feature to REALLY verify station addresses and to correctly pin-point the station markers. It works VERY well where Google has this (street view is a new box where the map, satellite, traffic boxes are on Google.com/maps not on GB.com's Google maps) This also helps to verify the EXACT station address since many (most) times these gas stations are also listed on Google Maps -- i.e. do a search when you map the location and it should show the names of the stations with their exact addresses and phone numbers. I just did this with a few stations in Saugus and Lynn and it worked well. Here's an example of a Mobil Station in Andover with the Google Street View showing the station quite clearly!! [You can tell from the prices that these pics must have been taken last spring/summer.] Another 'style item' that I wanted to bring up here was a posting I saw for a set of stations on the Mass Pike that were done IN ALL CAPITAL letters! I know there are gurus on text readability and such that recommend against using ALL CAPS because it is quite a bit harder to read. I suppose we could just find those stations and update them but I just wanted to bring it up here as something else we might want to 'educate' about ... BTW, Google Maps also has a GasBuddy.com Mapplet which makes it easier to find stations on the PMSL (Map Gas Prices) page. Another nice Google Mapplet is the 'US Address Lookup' which allows you to click on a map and get approximate street addresses right from the Google Map. Although I prefer to verify street addresses with a gas station locater, this provides a nice means to determine the even/odd side of a street. [Edited by: jasilva at 1/19/2008 8:21:29 PM EST]
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2008 11:59:00 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse I just fixed the Rt 128 service plaza in Lexington. Someone had changed the street address back to the postal mailing address that is not at all helpful in locating the station.
Dickp274 Champion Author Virginia Posts:11,424 Points:2,073,875 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2007 10:04:01 PM Ignore Dickp274 Report Abuse Thanks envtdude, Its listed as "Superior Petroleum" when I found it by google. All set now.
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Dec 25, 2007 1:36:45 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse Merry Christmas to all!
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,025 Points:3,000,140 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Dec 25, 2007 12:14:16 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse I have no idea what happened. Weymouth was originally on MassGasPrices but was moved to Boston in the reorg. I certainly did not originate this listing, although I may have editied the record. I also came up with nothing in trying to search.
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2007 7:30:21 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse dp274, a Super Petroleum station on Washington St & Mutton Ln in Weymouth you entered on 3/14/07 needs some TLC... more than a Maine-uh can do. There is no exact street address... no zip, no phone number and I couldn't find the station with the typical searches I do on the internet... looks like bugc moved this station to the MassGasPrices site back when there was a mass movement (5/19/07).. bugc, looks like I changed this station back to the Boston site.. don't know how I did that... would seem to me, from Maine, that this station might wanna be on the Boston Site anyway, but you've got "the list".
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2007 6:36:30 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse dp274, the photo for Super Gas, 291 Bridge St, Weymouth was especially good, since the cross st sign was right in the pic! ;)
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2007 6:15:34 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse Weymouth's taking a lot more work... missing telephone numbers... missing zips... Seems like most street names do not include whether it's a street, avenue, way, trail, highway, or whatever... I've added the GB-approved abbreviation for wherever possible... There's been some discussion about putting in route numbers for alternate names of streets and the "standard" method of doing so...don't remember exactly where I saw this, but I'm adjusting route names as well... hopefully that's ok.
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2007 5:27:13 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse I can't say enough about how well your photos complement your entries dp274! It's a nice addition, and often helps pin-point the station's location with the map markers!
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2007 5:09:40 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse Doin' some minor tweeks here and there in Hingham... nothing major. I feel much better about editing the MSL now that some Mainah's names doesn't take over stations in your MSL :) [Edited by: envtldude at 12/24/2007 5:19:00 PM EST]
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2007 5:00:21 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse dp274, Cohassett looks really good! The pictures make a big difference! I've got to try to do that with Maine stations more...
envtldude Champion Author Maine Posts:11,227 Points:2,122,160 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2007 4:46:12 PM Ignore envtldude Report Abuse Heads-up: We've found a bit of a loop-hole with the new system... It seems members are adding duplicate stations... sometimes multiples of the same duplicate while trying to match up their FSL with the MSL.. PizzaDude has pointed this out to me and has suggested that I monitor the recent changes to Maine's MSL... I tried the same idea here and found a "new" station entered in Yarmouth by rocky23hy. This station doesn't appear to be a duplicate, but there's a lot of missing information for this station and there doesn't seem to be anything that looks like a gas station anywhere near the map marker... Oddly enough, rocky23hy entered a new Gulf station at 156 Iyannough Rd, Hyannis...I'm wondering if one of these is an error, but I can't tell. I don't suppose anyone here would know anything about this Gulf? [Edited by: envtldude at 12/24/2007 4:50:08 PM EST]